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nehmeth - 5/11/2009 7:45 AM
Marko - 5/10/2009 4:42 PM
I think that Rafa will not play in Wimbledon final this year..I pick Roger or Novak to take this Wimbledon...And I must excuse, I think rafa will take 4 or 5 MORE RGS, so in overall he will take 8 or 9 RGs, max 2 Wim, 1 AO(yes, he won't get anu AOs) and 1or 2 USOs, I think that USo will be his next goal...And he will achieve it in next 2 or 3 years....That's only my predictions...We will see...
Predictions are what they are. I respect that.
To me that fact he and Roger have been in the Wimbledon final the past three years means a lot, especially to see how much he's improved EVERY year on grass and clay (and cement now ). It's like saying Roger won't make the final of Wimbledon... which COULD also happen, but it's not likely... same for Rafa.
It's interesting that you can see him taking 1 or 2 U.S. Opens yet not another Aussie. I'd like to hear your thoughts as to why.
I think he has already achieve that goal and he won't be so focused on AO anymore, believe me..Yes, i know he is the biggest fighter that sport has ever seen, but I think that in the future, Novak, Murray, Delpo, Tsonga will be more hungry for AOs than Rafa will be..He will now be focused on RGs of course, maybe Wim, and USo, because, as we all know, if he takes all 4 GS, not in one year, but overall, and take more GS than Roger, he will be the greatest ever...That's only predictions of course..BTW, I am from Serbia, and I support Roger on the first, although he is not much loved in Serbia because of some statments he made about Novak, and Novak, of course..Don;t like Rafa style of play, but full respect,for his determination and fight for evry point in the game, not matter what the result is...And because of that determination he has the big chance to become the greatset ever...I think that Roger can take 2 more GSs max,and, for my fortuness, he will not takew RGs....Big regards from Nis, Serbia:)
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Ball Boy
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After this past Weekend and think Roger is the KING again. I can't wait for him to win the French Open and once again be thought as the greatest ever PERIOD on any surface! Perhaps even Rafa is on the way out and may never win another title (??)
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tatorjaxFL - 5/18/2009 3:27 PM
After this past Weekend and think Roger is the KING again. I can't wait for him to win the French Open and once again be thought as the greatest ever PERIOD on any surface! Perhaps even Rafa is on the way out and may never win another title (??)
Wishful and illogical thinking in IMO. What basis did you use to form the idea that Fed winning one match makes him KING again? Don't forget, aside from Nadal, he has Joker and Murray to contend with (Joker has been looking pretty good over the last few weeks). In fact, I think the top 20 players are no longer as afraid of him as they used to be. To me, when you lose that edge, you become a lot more vulnerable (this is true of most sports).
Only one man was able to attain a No. 1 ranking once they lost it (I believe it was Ivan Lendl) so the stats are against Fed. If he can accomplish it, good for him, however, think it is far too early to make a statement like Rog is king again. If he wins RG and Wimby, I'd agree with you...but certainly not before then. As far as Rafa never winning another title....  You're joking right??
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Nadal 2009 - 5/18/2009 6:41 PM
tatorjaxFL - 5/18/2009 3:27 PM
After this past Weekend and think Roger is the KING again. I can't wait for him to win the French Open and once again be thought as the greatest ever PERIOD on any surface! Perhaps even Rafa is on the way out and may never win another title (??)
Wishful and illogical thinking in IMO. What basis did you use to form the idea that Fed winning one match makes him KING again? Don't forget, aside from Nadal, he has Joker and Murray to contend with (Joker has been looking pretty good over the last few weeks ). In fact, I think the top 20 players are no longer as afraid of him as they used to be. To me, when you lose that edge, you become a lot more vulnerable (this is true of most sports ).
Only one man was able to attain a No. 1 ranking once they lost it (I believe it was Ivan Lendl ) so the stats are against Fed. If he can accomplish it, good for him, however, think it is far too early to make a statement like Rog is king again. If he wins RG and Wimby, I'd agree with you...but certainly not before then. As far as Rafa never winning another title.... You're joking right??
Lendl was the only person to end a year at No. 1, then lose the No. 1 ranking, then come back and end another year at No. 1:
Sept. 9, 1985 - Sept. 11, 1988
Jan. 30, 1989 - Aug. 12, 1990
Many people became No. 1, lost it, then became No. 1 again.
See this link for the full list of No. 1 players:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_ATP_number_1_ranked_players
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TY Tented! I omitted "year-end".
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greatest ever right now
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Ball Boy
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Rafa Ndal is the best player ever !!!! 
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he's got everything ....wat a gal dream for yeah hehehehe 1st of all he got the best Physique we have ever seen in a tennis male player history nowadays tennis is not just about the game yeah its also about fashion trendsetter ....my fav Adidas, follow by Nike now China brands are coming up yeah Ling Na rite hmmmm
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Yep, I am 1000% sure you're dreaming if not hallucinating.
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Ball Boy
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Rafa Nadal is awesome, but I wonder how long his body will keep up at the level he plays at. He's built well physically, and that keeps him from getting injured constantly. But you see how far he stands behind the baseline when he pummels his groundstrokes? That kind of game is suited for younger, stronger players. Federer's game is a little bit more "age" friendly, IMHO.
Also, I'm all for Nadal being the greatest ever at everything, but it kinda sux that he had beat Fed right before Federer matched and set some records.
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He is the only "muscle man" i saw among all the men tennis players.
According the Nadal, he didn't do intense body building as much as other tennis players. It is just a same genetics from his family.
Can you believe that? However, i am impress with the agility and speed he showed on court!
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Ball Boy
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seen them all,Borg is still THE best on clay.
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Nadal has to come up with a lot more then "four on french clay". As for beeing the greatest ever... stop hallucinating, Nadal is far away from beeing anything sofar
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Nadal is the best player I never seen before not only on tennis court but other sports also. He never give up for every point in the game even he will going to lose the game. This is the attitude for a player should show to audience and I predicts he will bounce back to the top player shortly.
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ZOSO - 6/3/2009 2:26 PM
seen them all,Borg is still THE best on clay.
I can't say I agree with that, although Borg's record on clay at the French is still the best ever. Borg played less on clay and rarely faced Connors during his prime on clay, mostly at the French (Connors won quite a few big ones on clay, including the '76 USO final over Borg in 4 sets). To me, the clay court game has evolved and Rafael Nadal is the most dominant player have seen on any one surface--in this case clay. His defensive skills rival Borg's (though I think the Swede was faster), but his offensive skills are superior to the Swede's in my view. They are equally tenacious (along with Connors again), but I believe Rafa plays the clay court game at another level--and, admittedly, part of that is due to racquet and string changes, no doubt.
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Legend
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ZOSO - 6/3/2009 2:26 PM
seen them all,Borg is still THE best on clay.
I saw and even hit with Borg and I've seen Nadal . . . Nadal is the best ever on clay . . . like I've said before, Borg played the U.S. Open three times when it was on clay at Forest Hills and he has ZERO wins to show for it . . . how is that the best on clay?
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Nadal 2009 - 5/18/2009 3:41 PM
tatorjaxFL - 5/18/2009 3:27 PM
After this past Weekend and think Roger is the KING again. I can't wait for him to win the French Open and once again be thought as the greatest ever PERIOD on any surface! Perhaps even Rafa is on the way out and may never win another title (??)
Wishful and illogical thinking in IMO. What basis did you use to form the idea that Fed winning one match makes him KING again? Don't forget, aside from Nadal, he has Joker and Murray to contend with (Joker has been looking pretty good over the last few weeks ). In fact, I think the top 20 players are no longer as afraid of him as they used to be. To me, when you lose that edge, you become a lot more vulnerable (this is true of most sports ).
Only one man was able to attain a No. 1 ranking once they lost it (I believe it was Ivan Lendl ) so the stats are against Fed. If he can accomplish it, good for him, however, think it is far too early to make a statement like Rog is king again. If he wins RG and Wimby, I'd agree with you...but certainly not before then. As far as Rafa never winning another title.... You're joking right??
And Federer ended up winning both FO and Wimbledon. How do you like him now? :P
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With four FO Rafa holds that dirt record for the time beeing. When I checked last, the GOAT is not earned by winning a few slams on dirt. Nadal is not going to even get close to a trophy this year I can almost guaranty it. Murray for one will make sure of that. Roddick is very hungry and able to teach Nadal a few table manners, so is Del Potro, Joker and a few more who are very capable of showing Nadal that a ladder has decending cross-bars. Sorry guys but that's where Rafa is going.
Edited by Alorog 9/1/2009 5:29 PM
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Ball Boy
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I 100% agree with Alorog and yes Rafa is overrated.
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Panatta beat Borg twice at Paris and won French in 1976.
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Nadal is the best ever on clay he is just on another level compared to everyone else
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Tru,
you wrote" I 100% agree with Alorog and yes Rafa is overrated." Amazing! From May 08, Rafa dismantled the world at the French including the worlds 2nd best clay courter TMF (He only could win 4 games out of 3 sets)
Rafa vs Federer
2009 Australian Open
Australia Hard F Nadal, Rafael
7-5, 3-6, 7-6(3), 3-6, 6-2 Stats
2008 Wimbledon
Great Britain Grass F Nadal, Rafael
6-4, 6-4, 6-7(5), 6-7(8), 9-7 Stats
2008 Roland Garros
France Clay F Nadal, Rafael
6-1, 6-3, 6-0 Stats
Also, was the 08 Olympic gold medal singles champion and etc. I think I want to be Rafa and be called "overated".
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Futures Qualifier
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Nadal is really the best in strength of mind and the most trouble-free in power expenses. But this just has taken away his health in this year. So it is absolutely not clear what will be further....
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By the way, when the US Open was on clay, it was a different kind of clay than the French, it switched to the green, har-tru, North American style clay, very different from European clay courts. Borg and Connors never played at the French.
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This is true, Garro, but that surface is the closest we have in the States to red clay and the game employed is the same if you are a claycourter. Look who won those three US Opens on the green clay: clay court specialists Manuel Orantes and Guillermo Vilas, plus the underrated clay court player that was Jimmy Connors (over Borg in the final). Once it moved to hard court, a clay court player did not win it for years (I think Lendl could arguably be characterized as one, but he really excelled on hard courts). So, I do believe Connors' victory over Borg, as well as the Swede not being able to even make it to the final those other two years, reflects on Borg in a big clay court event. I still think Nadal is now the clay court gold standard.
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