If you talk about Caroline Garcia for more than a few minutes, the conversation will eventually come around to the moment when you, and the rest of the tennis world, first heard her name. At the 2011 French Open, as a 17-year-old wild card, Garcia took a seemingly insurmountable lead over Maria Sharapova in their second-round match. Watching from the locker room, a highly impressed Andy Murray tweeted that Garcia was going to be No. 1 in the world someday.

It sounds like a stunning statement now, of course, especially since it came from a guy who isn’t famous for making them. At that moment, though, it was easy to see what Murray meant. For the space of an hour, as the young and casually swaggering Frenchwoman whipped forehands past a hapless Sharapova, Garcia looked poised to become the next big thing, and her game the next evolutionary advance in baseline shot-making.

Too bad a career lasts longer than an hour. Waking up to what she was about to do, Garcia stopped swaggering, stopped hitting forehand winners, and ended up losing to Sharapova 6-0 in the third set. For the next six years, she didn’t do much to make Murray look like a genius in the talent-scouting game, either. Garcia wasn’t big enough, powerful enough, fast enough, consistent enough, or nerveless enough to make a run to the Top 10, let alone No. 1, even a remote possibility. Just reaching the fourth round of a major, which she did for the first time at Roland Garros this year, was tough enough.

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And yet, despite all of that, there was steady progress. Since 2011, Garcia’s year-end ranking has moved from 146 to 138 to 75 to 38 to 35 to 23. Instead of being an instinctively brilliant shot-maker, Garcia has turned out to be a solid and polished all-around performer. She doesn’t play with much of the memorable flair of so many of her fellow Frenchmen and women, and she he doesn’t have any spectacular or unstoppable weapons. But neither, at this stage, does Garcia have any glaring weaknesses. The funks of error-filled play that torpedoed her in the past have mostly been purged from her game.

The results, finally, show it. Garcia has had a career year in 2017. She reached the round of 16 for the first time at Roland Garros and Wimbledon, has made five semifinals on three surfaces, and this weekend she won the biggest tournament of her career, at the Premier 5 event in Wuhan, which had a star-studded draw. Along the way, Garcia upset Angelique Kerber and Dominika Cibulkova, and in the final she came back from a set down to beat Ashleigh Barty, 6-7 (3), 7-6 (4), 6-2.

What has made the difference? The roots of Garcia’s 2017 success may go back to her controversy-generating decision to split with doubles partner Kiki Mladenovic and concentrate on singles. Garcia and Mladenovic had won the French Open doubles title the previous year, and the divorce caused a rift between Garcia and her French Fed Cup teammates. But it has produced results for her.

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“It’s been a long journey,” Garica said in Paris this spring. “I’ve learned a great deal of things about myself...A lot of things happened beyond sports, as well.”

“I came to the French Open with a firm commitment. The commitment is to not worry too much about the others. Instead I want to focus on myself and on my game. It feels great, but it’s a long journey and it’s not over yet.”

How far can Garcia’s journey take her? She still doesn’t have the power of a typical Grand Slam champion, but she has the skills for all surfaces—especially, I’d think, for grass, which has traditionally been more friendly to French players than their native clay. She has time; after her birthday in a couple of weeks, she’ll still only be 24.

Garcia’s win in Wuhan took to her a career-high No. 15. Ranking-wise, she hasn’t proven Murray correct yet, and she probably never will. Talent-wise, though, she’s shown that he isn’t such a bad judge, after all.

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One year after Garcia caught the attention of the world for the first time in Paris, David Goffin did the same thing, in the same briefly brilliant fashion, on the same set of courts.

At 21, the unheralded, unprepossessing Belgian entered the French Open draw as a lucky loser. He won his first two matches in five sets, but he didn’t come to the attention of many until he took the first set from Roger Federer in their round-of-16 encounter. Flinging his wiry body around the clay and flicking winners left and right, Goffin gave Federer everything he could handle in a four-set defeat. Afterward, the French fans applauded Goffin’s effort and Federer blessed him as a player to watch.

As with Garcia, though, there wasn’t lot to watch at first. From 2012 to 2014, Goffin lost in the first round at seven straight Grand Slam tournaments, as his ranking dropped out of the Top 100. He had the shots—few have ever hit ground strokes as smoothly—but at 5’11” and 150 pounds, he didn’t have the physical heft to make them effective. Goffin seemed to be a player from another, earlier, and frankly smaller era.

Yet, like Garcia, even as Goffin failed to live up to early sky-high expectations, he progressed. Since bottoming out at No. 113 in 2013, his year-end ranking has moved from 22 to 16 to 11 in 2016. Despite having to pull out of the French Open and miss Wimbledon with a leg injury, Goffin led Belgium back to the Davis Cup final for the second time, and he stands a good chance of making his first trip to the year-end World Tour Finals in London.

Finally, like Garcia, Goffin won what felt like a breakthrough title this weekend, in Shenzhen. It was his first tournament win since 2014, and it snapped a six-final losing streak.

“This one is really special because you know it’s always tough to come back from injuries,” said Goffin, who hurt himself when he ran into a tarp at the French Open, and who was still visibly hobbling at the US Open last month. “To come back from injury to qualify my country for the Davis Cup final and then to win my third trophy, it means a lot.”

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Watching Goffin from up close at the Open, and from afar in Shenzhen this weekend, I couldn’t help but think that, at 26, we haven’t seen the best from this gifted player yet. He obviously struggles to win finals, and he struggles to close out top-ranked players. At his size, he’ll never have the self-assurance of a more powerful player like the 6’5” Nick Kyrgios. But that didn’t stop Goffin from beating Kyrgios in a crucial Davis Cup meeting in September.

Could Goffin be the next player, like Rafael Nadal in 2005, Novak Djokovic in 2011, and Murray in 2016, to see his career take off after a Davis Cup title? That will be one of the side-stories to Belgium’s final with France in November.

Goffin’s shots are second to none; he just needs to believe that someone his size can, and should, win big titles. That’s easier said than believed, of course. But Goffin is one of the men who should be in the running at the French Open, if and when Nadal’s grip on the clay there ever begins to loosen.

Murray and Federer said that Garcia and Goffin’s time would come. Maybe that time will be 2018.